Tue, 27 October 2009  Episode # 80 of THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID finds both Matt and Kevin contemplating pulling the old switcheroo. I'm a motherlover, you're a motherlover... When Jim and Pam return from their honeymoon, Michael confides to Jim that he's taken Pam's mom for a lover, and her seats go all the way down. All. The. Way. Down. Jim is skeptical, but surely Pam, more than anything, wants Michael to be
happy, RIGHT? Meanwhile, Dwight crafts a fiendish plan to bug Jim's office, but will he be 'hoisted by his own mallard'? hey, he's NOT insane! One thing's for sure, though-- I DO look damn fine in this fedora. Incidental music provided by the Podshow Podsafe Music Network. Email us at TWSSpodcast @ gmail. com, or leave a comment on our blog page at TWSSpodcast. com. iTunes reviews are always appreciated! Help spread the word! Also, PLEASE help support the show by signing up for a FREE 14-day trial of Netflix. Instantly watch every episode of the office from the comfort of your laptop, desktop, or xbox360-connected TV. Go
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For once I find myself agreeing with Matt and not Kevin!
I loved Erin during the candy fiasco. It's partially because I love Erin's character and her innocence, but I think a bigger part of it is that I really want Pam to get slapped around after the way she's been acting. I'm totally fine with Erin being the five-fingered hammer of justice against Pam's campaign of doom and gloom around the office.
I loved Erin during the candy fiasco. It's partially because I love Erin's character and her innocence, but I think a bigger part of it is that I really want Pam to get slapped around after the way she's been acting. I'm totally fine with Erin being the five-fingered hammer of justice against Pam's campaign of doom and gloom around the office.
This is out of hand now. I asked last week why you hated Jim & Pam. Now Pam is supposed to be okay with Michael dating her mom & she is supposed to be in a good mood while pregnant. Erin is a TOTAL bitch to Pam and you defend Erin. I believe that if Erin stabbed Pam you would say well Pam was being so mean to her. I still love the podcast but its hard to listen to 1 sane person and 1 person who bashes my favorite cast members every week but NEVER bashes the rest of them. I am embarrassed by this because I know that Jim and Pam are the only smart ones. I have people like Michael, Erin, etc at my office and they ALL suck. Makes me think that they don't get the show. Michael is nuts and Jim and Pam are the NORMAL ones, the rest of them are nuts.
Wow, someone loves their JAM :)
Go and take a look at the comments section for "The Lover," Tyrone, and you will see that more people than NOT also agreed with the take that Pam's "attitude" is getting tired. I feel thst we've explained our take on why we feel the way we do, and if your take is different, then hey, that's fine. Do me a favor, though, and don't categorize someone as being "insane" because they don't agree with you... and DON'T dare to say that someone doesn't "get the show" because they see things in a different way. I could just as easily turn that around on YOU, if I wanted to. But, as I said, I recognize that with any artistic discussion people are going to see things in different ways-- there are no "right" or "wrong" answers here.
Jim and Pam *USED* to be the surrogates for the audience in the early seasons, and as the show has gone on, they have ceased to serve that function for many. Jim, as manager, has certainly proven himself to be every bit as incompetent as Michael. Pam, who I liked as recently as the Michael Scott Paper Company plotline has been reduced to a complaining, screaming, vomiting, shadow of her former self. I WANT to be on her side, but the writers are making it very hard for me. Maybe you still have that old sympathy to guide you through these rough patches, but it's not enough for a lot of us.
As for the Erin thing, I just again fail to see how she was a bitch to Pam in that scene. She's a secretary who is new and learning the ropes. She is either too naive or too stupid to realize that Michael is a fool, so she respects him as her boss. Yes, for Pam, that whole candy thing must have seemed pretty odd, but Erin certainly wasn't doing it out of any sense of maliciousness, IMHO.
Go and take a look at the comments section for "The Lover," Tyrone, and you will see that more people than NOT also agreed with the take that Pam's "attitude" is getting tired. I feel thst we've explained our take on why we feel the way we do, and if your take is different, then hey, that's fine. Do me a favor, though, and don't categorize someone as being "insane" because they don't agree with you... and DON'T dare to say that someone doesn't "get the show" because they see things in a different way. I could just as easily turn that around on YOU, if I wanted to. But, as I said, I recognize that with any artistic discussion people are going to see things in different ways-- there are no "right" or "wrong" answers here.
Jim and Pam *USED* to be the surrogates for the audience in the early seasons, and as the show has gone on, they have ceased to serve that function for many. Jim, as manager, has certainly proven himself to be every bit as incompetent as Michael. Pam, who I liked as recently as the Michael Scott Paper Company plotline has been reduced to a complaining, screaming, vomiting, shadow of her former self. I WANT to be on her side, but the writers are making it very hard for me. Maybe you still have that old sympathy to guide you through these rough patches, but it's not enough for a lot of us.
As for the Erin thing, I just again fail to see how she was a bitch to Pam in that scene. She's a secretary who is new and learning the ropes. She is either too naive or too stupid to realize that Michael is a fool, so she respects him as her boss. Yes, for Pam, that whole candy thing must have seemed pretty odd, but Erin certainly wasn't doing it out of any sense of maliciousness, IMHO.
The problem is they are still the surrogates to the audience BUT you and many of your followers lose that because Steve Carell does such a great acting job playing Michael Scott. Just because a number of people agree with you doesn't mean that it's correct it just means more of you are possibly wrong. Insane may have been a strong word but I don't think so. For 5 seasons she put up with working with a bunch of morons and finally she has broken, to me that is a very realistic and proper progression of a character. Jim has had all good ideas as boss but Michael ruins them.
I want Michael to find true love but Holly seems like the only one at this point. He and Pam's mom are probably hot and passionate but so was Michael and Jan. Doesn't mean this is where he's going to find happiness.
I'm with Pam on the creep factor. Back in Diwali, Michael mistakes the moment, after getting rejected by Carol, and leans over to Pam for a kiss. In another episode he tells Pam if neither are married in 10, 20, 30 years - they should get married. He constantly talks about her hotness (or sometimes lack thereof). When a guy hits on you and then your mom later - anyone would find that creepy.
Pam unprofessionally inserted personal business into the office - but Michael brought it there. The majority of the plot is Michael (and others) being unprofessional in the office.
I'm with Pam on the creep factor. Back in Diwali, Michael mistakes the moment, after getting rejected by Carol, and leans over to Pam for a kiss. In another episode he tells Pam if neither are married in 10, 20, 30 years - they should get married. He constantly talks about her hotness (or sometimes lack thereof). When a guy hits on you and then your mom later - anyone would find that creepy.
Pam unprofessionally inserted personal business into the office - but Michael brought it there. The majority of the plot is Michael (and others) being unprofessional in the office.
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