Thu, 11 January 2007
From NBC.com:It's time
for Michael (Steve Carell) to revisit his roots with the
company as he hits the road for sales call duty. Meanwhile, Dwight
(Rainn Wilson) attempts to cover up a crucial deadline missed by Angela
(Angela Kinsey) while Karen (Rashida Jones) is in for some surprising
news. David Denman, Leslie David Baker, Brian Baumgartner, Jenna
Fischer, Kate Flannery, Melora Hardin, Mindy Kaling, John Krasinski,
B.J. Novak, Oscar Nunez, Phyllis Smith and Paul Lieberstein also star. Post your thoughts and comments here! EDIT: Is this the first time in the history of the show that they've used an abbreviated opening theme song? Holy crap, 7 minutes in, and this episode is pure comedy gold... GOLD, I tells ya! The beauty parlor, the "young Jim" photo... Dwight in the car "psyching" up... "Hawkman"... Sigh! I love you, Cousin Mose! You write a mean episode. EDIT 2: Go team Jwight! Phyllis?? Oh no you dih-ent! EDIT 3: I literally had tears in my eyes during Dwight's farewell speech... Sniff! Yikes, cliffhanger! BASTARDS! Oompa-loompa, oompity dawesome... this episode was totally awesome! EDIT 4: Oh, Snap! Hell hath no fury like a pissed off Angela.
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-- posted at: 11:56pm EDT
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Hey guys- Love the podcast! To prove how much of a fan I am of The Office I am trying to answer your open-ended question: Was Halpert ever a college man? If you go back to last season when Dwight recieves the top salesman of the year award, Jim tries to \"help\" Dwight with his speech. Jim does reference that he took a public speaking course in yep, college. So yes, Halpert has been to college. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the podcasts each week
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Talking to the camera ... Matt asks why doesn\'t Pam \"come clean\" when speaking into the camera. I missed the very first season / episodes. How is this device explained. I presumed that a \"documentary\" was underway. As such, she may feel ashamed of not following her heart or being 100% honest with what the camera sees vs. what she has said. Is it ever spelled out what the camera represents?
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Andy - I was bothered by the attempts to look cold too. Not so much b/c it\'s filmed in Cali but b/c here in PA we\'re having the warmest winter in history! It hasn\'t snowed a single flake, thanks to global warming. (We\'re all doomed.) But I guess they can\'t account for that in the show since they film so far ahead of the actual airing of the episode. On a lighter note - I think this was the best episode this season! There were several scenes (like the cut to Karen and Phyllis after the hair dresser, Jim smacking Dwight, Jim slamming on the breaks, Michael\'s \"Boobs\" etc) where I actually busted out laughing histerically. Which is really bad since I was watching it alone and laughing by myself. I\'m sure the neighbors are ready to have me committed...
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Just thought I\\\'d point out that on The Office has three of the top ten TV show downloads from iTunes (the last three episodes are 1,3, and 5). I\\\'m pretty sure that TWSS podcast is THE contributing factor to that success... if only there were new episodes.........
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This is my favorite episode of the season. I am sure there are plenty of deleted scenes in the cars. I know some people have expressed in the past that they do not like when the characters go outside the Office. I love it when they do this- that is why I liked \'Initiation\' so much. Is Michael oblivious to all of Andy comments in the car or does he look to be annoyed at how hard Andy is going after Dwight? It\'s easier to believe he\'s clueless, but maybe he will surprise us. Martin- They did shorten the theme song. They do that when airing reruns from season one. NBC needs to milk every advertising second out of their few successful shows.
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I had something bugging me about this week\'s episode that wasn\'t related to the plot. We know that most of the show is filmed in California, though it is set in the Northeast. That fact really stuck out in this episode where everybody seems to be freezing in their winter coats while its bright and sunny out and the sales teams are driving through lush green neighborhoods. Is this a nitpick? You bet. Is there anything reasonable they can do about it? Nope, but now that I\'m looking for it its distracting.
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Andy, I thought about that, too. Seemed like the cast was trying a little too hard to look cold while Michael was giving everyone their \"Amazing Race\" designations. Clearly, the answer is to digitally add breath vapor to each character when he or she is outside. That makes it look totally legit cold.
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I must rear my ugly head again in (abstract) defense of Karen moving for Jim. I am far from a card-carrying feminist, but there are certain double standards that I can\'t help but notice. In GENERAL, it is romantic for a guy to up and move for a girl, even if there is no definite relationship between them, as long as he\'s not completed deluded. When a woman does it, in GENERAL, it\'s considered some degree of pathetic and stupid. In truth, I think that there are some valid reasons for this perception. In certain ways, tangible and not, women tend to have more to lose (I\'ll try to back that up if someone forces me to), and are therefore inherently more self-protective. I don\'t think it\'s entirely a \"how am I going to be perceived\" thing, or entirely a superficially imposed societal more. (Or, maybe, I\'m saying that some of these old mores are not arbitrary or superficial.) Nevertheless, I just don\'t see Karen\'s moving for Jim as, to quote Mr. Tsang, \"utter crap.\" She\'s not deluded. She might not be the most sensitive person on Earth, or she would have picked up on Jim\'s ambivalence pre-move. But, his \"you should move\" WAS an invitation. I\'m not saying that it\'s likely that the statistical Karen (a stable somewhat ambitious female, etc.), would have moved at that point. But it\'s not crazy. She was taking a chance. Is all. About Jim \"lying\" .. . well, the only thing that gives that criticism some weight to me is his nominally veiled but blatant confession (to the camera, not to Michael) that Karen is straight out his \"rebound girl.\" If he hadn\'t out loud said that, I don\'t know, about as far as I could go is saying that he\'s making an understandable mistake, but not that he\'s being truly unethical. I mean, what\'s the guy supposed to do? He\'s desperately trying to do what he\'s supposed to do to move on. It\'s unlikely to work; you can\'t exactly make yourself fall in love with someone. But if you\'re trying to, is it a good move to say, \"yeah, I know I encouraged you to move here and we\'re dating and everything, but I long for Pam Beesly 24 hours a day\"? I don\'t know. I think I\'m about to hit up against the this-is-not-Shakespeare wall again. Meaning, in the service of comedy and just the expeditious nature of writing for (network) TV, certain things are sacrificed -- lots of continuity things, including character continuity. Would Jim as we know him really carry on with Karen to this extent if he consciously knows that she\'s a rebound girl? Well, no. It doesn\'t quite ring true. My husband just said that maybe she\'s turning into more than that for him. But I don\'t think there\'s (yet) any evidence of that. I think they -- the writers -- are juggling a lot of balls and sometimes they almost drop one. You know, not totally where it falls on the floor and bounces away, but almost, so you notice, but they somehow recover well enough to still put on a good show.
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is it just me or is anyone else sick of the stamford people? first andy irritated me, then i thought he was somewhat amusing, but ultimately i hate him. go back to conneticut! you too karen! andy is officially as annoying as hannah. i\'m sure that now anytime karen sees jim talk to pam she is going to pull him away or be overly affectionate to stick it to pam. karen, you\'re as whorish as your makeover. :P i\'m sure most of you will disagree but i don\'t think it would be the \"end of the show\" or jumping the shark if Jim and pam got together before the end of this season. i think there is so much the writers can do with their relationship without it getting stale. the key is to not have it be the focus of every single episode. i\'d like to see how they\'d act like a couple in the office as i\'m sure it would be a bit awkward...not as weird as dwight/angela. i\'d ultimately love to see jim propose to pam. then all is right with the world. that\'s all i have to say. that and...boobs.
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deleted scenes... toby is way creepy... good, i\\\'ve been missing flenderson. Me: \\\"i think a latte sounds good right now\\\", my wife:\\\"it\\\'s 11:40...\\\" and then in her best meek, toby voice, you better not...\\\" .. and I like Dwights redo on roofs, but don\\\'t understand why there\\\'s no walls and people just sit around under roofs hanging from cranes. Dawesome.
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Toby is sooo pathetic in the second deleted scene. A nice episode. I like when they focus on actual work stuff, especially showing that these guys sort of actually know what they are doing (esp. Jim and Dwight). I like the Dwight Quits storyline but I\'m sure he\'ll be back. I wish Andy and esp. Karen were staying. Karen finding out about Pam/Jim is a nice bookend to the Pam storyline from last week.
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Wow, two shocking episodes back-to-back! Dwight\'s coming back, the company needs him too badly to let him quit. Even if Angela doesn\'t do the noble thing and confess, Michael (and possibly other characters) is going to beg him to reconsider. The Dwight/Angela romance has to be made public soon. She owes Dwight so much for being a constant (and secret) source of support and help; this will weigh heavily on her mind, and her strong morals will force her to stand up for Dwight and stand up for love!!! Now that Karen is suspicious about Jim/Pam, she might start snooping around and meddling in other people\'s business. Andy has obviously never heard of \"karma.\" In a few episodes, the rest of the cast will be singing songs about him (in harmony!). He\'s such an interesting villain, but he\'s on his way out. Boobs!
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I think Andy is on his way out too. Michael got to see him in action and he\\\'s not the kind of salesman that Michael would want to cultivate. I thought that Andy crossed over from just being douche to being a really malicious douche when he went snooping in Dwight\\\'s car. I don\\\'t think he will fool Michael for long. And once again we see Michael\\\'s low-key but effective sales prowess. I felt a little disappointed in both Jim and Karen. I know Jim was trying to be a nice guy and I might have done the same thing in his position, but he really soft-pedaled it. So OK, I\\\'ll give him a break. But yeah, when Karen played the \\\"moved from Connecticut\\\" card, I thought \\\"oh boy, not good...\\\"
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Speaking as a free-market capitalist who thinks that Dunder Mufflin as an entity probably should not be in business (accutely observed by the youths in the \'bring your daughter to work day\' episode), Jim and Dwight\'s sales pitch was absolutely brilliant and totally would have worked on me.
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I was touched by Jim and Dwights cohesiveness this episode. I thought Dwight was just being his clueless and obnoxious self, but then was also impressed at the team\'s great presentation. (although I was scared it was going to bomb since Pam was out for coffee) I also liked seeing Phyllis being a savvy saleswoman, not just a meek doormat. I think this episode did a lot to expand some of the lesser characters. Stanley\'s Ryan impression was great. Poor Ryan, he just can\'t seem to stop sucking at the paper-selling biz.
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I think this is an interesting episode because it touches upon one of the main themes of this season: Loyalty vs. Truthfulness. From the closing of the other plant due to being more truthful than loyal, to Jim being more loyal to Karen than truthful to Pam, to even Dwight finding a road that is more difficult by being loyal to his love over the truth...you really get this sense of a season that is really shaping up with a consistent theme and a consistent vibe. My Predictions: 1. The Angel/Dwight relationship will come out in the open by the end of the season. 2. Ed Helms is going to be fired. Note how even Michael saw through his guise when they went on a business call together. Ed Helms cared little for the people he was trying to sell to and only cared about making himself look better. Michael knows this...and I can see a fall coming. 3. Karen is the other person that is going to leave. If this whole season is about truthfulness and loyalty, I can easily see Karen realizing Jim\\\'s feelings and quitting. But this won\\\'t be before Karen really lets Jim have it and points out that he\\\'s trying too hard to be a nice guy and not hard enough at being a good man. This stings Jim and pushes him away from Pam because he slightly blames her for making him still feel this way. 4. The season will end with Pam wanting to be with Jim, but Jim not wanting to have anything to do with her because he still feels hurt over hurting Karen. I\\\'m sure this will be conveyed through pregnant pauses and such, but in the end, it\\\'ll be back to the Roy/Pam/Jim triangle...where Pam wants Jim openly, but Jim doesn\\\'t want to have anything to do with him, and Roy being the \\\"nice guy\\\" who listens to Pam while secretly wanting her. - little kon-el
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