Mon, 19 February 2007
Episode # 17 of THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID finds both Matt and Ian wondering how to battle the five Goliaths that are endangering America. It's the moment Michael's been waiting for-- a chance to inspire a new generation. But is business school ready for his 100 Grand ideas? Meanwhile, Dunder-Mifflin has a bat in its belfry, and Dwight is just the man for the job. And Jim? One crisis at a time. Pam puts her self esteem on the line, but will Scranton's Fab Two grind her dreams to dust? And Ryan? Welcome to the annex, monkey-boy. Incidental music provided by the Podshow Podsafe Music Network. Email us at TWSSpodcast @ gmail. com, or leave a comment on our blog page at thatswhatshesaid. libsyn. com. iTunes reviews are always appreciated! Help spread the word!
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How in this Earth could you compare Office with the seductive and hilarious Seinfeld? Every single episode of Seinfeld was absolutely fantastic. The characters are ... well, except, maybe George which looked like he could use some generic lipitor
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Love your podcast; it\\\'s the best of The Office podcasts out there. I was listening to it today at work and was cracking up at my desk. I\\\'m really glad you play clips from the episode because it\\\'s like watching it again, even if I can only hear it. One of the girls on The Office Alliance podcast was LITERALLY in tears because the actress that plays Karen would be leaving because her pilot got picked up for next season. IN TEARS! OMGWTF!? Go back home to your cats and Hümmel figurine collectible plates if you can\\\'t enjoy a hilarious TV show for what it is.
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I would rank Season 2 as one of the best sitcom seasons of all time. Certainly comparable to Season 4 of Seinfeld or Season 5 of Cheers. Sometimes magic just happens. Seinfeld was worse after season 4 but it didn\\\'t suck, and neither does season 3 of the Office. I\\\'m having a lot of fun with many of the episodes this season and definitely could see myself geeking out to the DVDs when they come out (it would be nice to have commentaries with just a couple stars, like Melora Hardin and Steve Carell, rather than the entire gang). That being said, **yes**... I sure wish they\\\'d resolve Jim/Pam real-soon-now.
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Great podcast, as always. One thing I wanted to get off my chest, and maybe some others can chime in as well: I\'ve been really disappointed with Season 3, especially after watching some of the S2 DVD during class at UW-Milwaukee. I think before this season started I would have quantified myself as a shipper for Jim and Pam, though I didn\'t know what that term meant until I started listening to your show. At this point, 17 episodes into S3, I\'m starting to no longer care about them - especially since they no longer seem to even be friends. One of the great things about S2 was the relationship they had, aside from the flirting/angst/etc - they were great together. Do the writers think that if these two can\'t be romantically involved, that they can\'t even talk to each other in the office? This is really one of the things that I\'ve missed the most about this season. The background characters have been great, if underutilized. Michael has seen more development of his own personality, which is terriffic. They\'ve also made Dwight into a sympathetic character (who has replaced Jim as my favorite person on the show, which I never thought I\'d say). However, I just can\'t keep from feeling that they dropped the ball with the whole Jim/Pam thing - I\'m past them being together as a couple, can they at least be funny inside the office? Karen sucks the funny out of the room in almost every scene she\'s in, and it\'s getting rather annoying. One last thing - after watching S2 at least 10 times over on DVD (other than Dwight\'s Speech), I can\'t see myself watching any of these S3 episodes more than once, aside from Benihana Christmas and Travelling Salesmen. The funny is being outweighed by the angst, and the writers need to either end this faux-relationship so they can be friends again, or just get it over with and have them together.
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Jordan, I think most of us know what you\\\'re talking about and feel similarly to varying extents. I\\\'m not someone who prefers the British Office to \\\"ours,\\\" but I do think Ricky Gervais had a certain advantage in limiting the number of episodes and knowing where he was going to go with the story arc. Through our season two, you have some of that advantage as well, a feeling of consistency and movement in the Jim/Pam story. I think season three can sometimes feel like they are winging it. Almost, when it\\\'s at its worst, like, \\\"oh, we have to keep this going somehow .. . well, let\\\'s create this tension by doing this and then drag out that for as long as we can get away with . .. and . . . well, it\\\'ll all work out in the end whenever that might be . .. hopefully.\\\" For me that doesn\\\'t mean they haven\\\'t had a few great episodes this season. Nor does it mean that they have failed with the Jim/Pam/Karen saga. I actually think they\\\'ve done fairly well considering the near impossibility of what they\\\'re doing. They cannot simply continue the relationship just as it was in season two, as satisfyingly give-me-more as that was: that wouldn\\\'t make sense narratively; nor do I think they could sustain that particular kind of tension indefinitely. Obviously, they are trying to create another kind of tension now -- a few other kinds -- by keeping them apart, by having them nominally interested in other people, by having the audience know more than either of them. I think the instinct is right, given the problem at hand -- dragging out the beginning of a relationship that in reality most likely would have SOME kind of resolution by now given Jim\\\'s confession and Pam\\\'s half-acknowledgment. But the execution is often clunky and sometimes joltingly inconsistent. I continue to forgive them a huge amount I think because they\\\'ve pulled off just enough episodes this season like \\\"Business School,\\\" just enough to keep them in my good graces. Yes, my elite good graces . .. . I\\\'ve been on a Larry David binge for the past couple of weeks, and would like to sometime write a few (more) things that have come to mind in the comparison. But in accordance with the less-than-essay length commenting rule here at That\\\'s What She Said ;), I will save those brilliant thoughts, those life lessons worth their weight in gold . .. Because, my most pressing question right now is: Jordan, you are watch episodes of The Office DURING class at UW-Milwaukee? Are there no lows to which you kids will not stoop?!? Wait. I get it! It\\\'s a class on the evolution of contemporary television comedies . . . right?
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>I\\\'m surprised Matt and I didn\\\'t talk more about Joss Whedon. >That\\\'s probably a good thing Indeed. If anything, you talked about it too much as it was. Thanks for the Polack and Michael\\\'s brother research. Very interesting. Another great show!
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You know, after listening to the show, I\'m surprised Matt and I didn\'t talk more about Joss Whedon. That\'s probably a good thing, but we used to be such huge fans of \'Buffy the Vampire Slayer\' (and talked plenty about it after recording). And there\'s a lot of his work - \'Firefly,\' \'Serenity,\' \'Astonishing X-Men\' - I still enjoy to this day.
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