Tue, 22 April 2008
Episode # 41 of THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID finds Matt and Kevin both craving a hot and juicy red-head. Where were YOU, the day the chair model died? Michael finds more than just a great Aeron chair in the newest supply catalog, and feels ready to enter the next phase of his dating life... if only the rest of the office would cooperate. Sure, she's feisty, but can she fit into an average-sized rowboat? Parking problems cause Kevin and Andy to confront the five families with an offer they (hopefully) can't refuse, and a shocking revelation for PB and J that is going to kick your ass. Incidental music provided by the Podshow Podsafe Music Network. Email us at TWSSpodcast @ gmail.com, or leave a comment on our blog page at TWSSpodcast. com. Check out Kevin's blog and podcast at the-frat-pack. com. iTunes reviews are always appreciated! Help spread the word!
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You\'ve mentioned this a few times now, and I\'m just curious - who said (or where did you read) that this would probably be the episode where a spinoff character would be introduced? I never came across that myself so I\'m just wondering the context and how certain it sounded. I certainly didn\'t see spinoff potential there.
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Matt and Kevin - As usual, great podcast, and not just because of the on-air mention! Thanks! Lauren kind of stole my thunder; it seemed like you guys were really picking on Andy a lot. I think that he\'s already a fleshed-out character. It\'s pretty clear that the lessons Andy learned in \"management (anger, that is) training\" really stuck. I feel like I can see him physically try to control his anger. Is it possible that the reason you two are so down on him is he\'s not giving off that vibe of simmering, postal-esque anger we had before? I think that Ryan\'s comment on Michael\'s constant redemption is spot-on. It really would be sitcommy. But maybe redemption isn\'t the right word for what we feel about Michael. Maybe it\'s the humiliation-by-proxy talked about in The Office and Philosophy. Because here we are, four seasons in, and Michael still hasn\'t learned much. But we always understood where he was coming from, we understood that, whatever his motiviations, he was trying to do the right thing, and we could forgive him. I think we\'re all so angry at him because Pam introduced him to a woman that has all the qualities he says he\'s looking for, then reveals that he was dishonest about his desires. BTW, I only listened to this last night. I was shocked to learn that I\'d inadvertantly let this episode languish on my iPod for so long!
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why do you guys dislike andy so much? i think he\'s fantastic and while his boneheadedness overlaps with michael and dwight, i think he adds a lot to the show. he has become one of my faves - certainly more dynamic and interesting than other officemates like meredith or oscar. he makes season 3 work, imo! think of the funniest moments from S3 and you;ll see how valuable he is in keeping the show fresh. in general he\'s much sweeter and more likeable than M. and D. - i would miss him if he left.
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Office Tally posted a Q&A with BJ Novak about Chair Model. He confirms that Kevin *was* using his Christmas Party footbath and that the lyrics to American Pie were scripted, not improvised. Apparently, they also wrote lyrics for Candle in the Wind, but couldn\'t get it cleared.
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I think you just talked about on the podcast in regards to my feelings about spoilers. I can understand how things can be ruined for some people, but I knew about Jim and Pam\'s storyline way before Dinner Party even aired. Seeing it happen still shocked me. I\'m the person who knew every single detail about last seasons Lost finale and it still kicked my butt. Either way anybody feels I\'m still freakishly happy you said something relating to me on the podcast. That\'s pretty awesome.
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i like emma\'s cliffhanger idea. because there is NO way Pam would say no, and yet, that would be a cool conflict. Because for four years, the writers have scripted these characters as destined lovers, so any cheap way out wouldn\'t make sense. Note: my single friends think Jim\'s forwardness is stranger than my married friends. My married friends understand that once you\'ve made up your mind that you\'re willing to commit to a person for life, what are you waiting for? Plus, they\'ve been good friends for years. As far as the \"Is Jim a dick?\" debate, I think it\'s all subject to Pam\'s reaction. If she laughs, we assume no. If she walks away angry and upset, we assume yes.
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Does anyone else feel like me: kind of BORED with the JAM relationship lately? I used to like to watch their love for each other get wrapped up in their mutual joy for causing mischief around the office, playing jokes, pranks, etc. It was a way for them to relieve the sexual tension, if you will. Now that Jim and Pam are together, they share bewildered looks at their office counterparts rather than planning ways to poke fun at them. I miss that aspect. It became the Michael-Jan story and it always left me feeling so horrible watching Michael\'s descent into hell. I don\'t know... am I alone in my want of them to returning to making fun of Dwight and Andy? Matt, I just discovered your podcast right after the \"Dinner Party\" episode and I have to say that my wife and I are getting a real kick listening to your views on the show. Keep up the great work and I hope you feel better soon. The \"Oscar Mayer Wiener..lover\" comment had me in tears! My favorite line of that episode. :D
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Karen F, giving credit where it is due, Matt is the one who chose the email comments this week. Though the \"shout out portion\" was an ad-lib by me. Marcello, truth be told the show would be less interesting if Matt and I agreed about everything. We sometimes (even subconsciously) exaggerate our differences to make the show more interesting. It\'s not Matt\'s fault that he is typecast as the obsessive critic on the podcast (well, actually it sort of is), while the cohost template started by Ian and continued by me is the positive wiseacre role.
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Hey guys. I enjoyed the podcast this week, and I liked the shout-out from Kevin. It was the only appreciation I got at all at work today. Thinking about Michael\'s dickishness I wonder if this will be a multi-episode arc like Dwight\'s relationship grief was. We all grieve in different ways; maybe Michael deals with his grief by being an a$$hole. He wouldn\'t be the first (male or female). The episode where Jan & Michael have their first kiss was on TBS last night and my husband and I got a big laugh out of screaming at the TV: \"don\'t do it!!!\" Feel better Matt. Spring is here and it\'s time to ditch winter colds for spring pollen allergies.
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Matt- I just wanted to tell you that your comment \"That\'s just shocking and disgusting\" about Karen being the #2 favorite Office character had me cracking up. I don\'t know why I thought it was so funny, probably because I agree with you, but thanks for that laugh!
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Probably. Well, I always enjoy the cover art, if it makes you feel more justified. Especially in a really dramatic episode, it\'s fun to see you try to sum it up in little image slices. It\'s kind of comic-ey, almost. The more I thought about this episode the more the landlady meanness bugged. Mostly because it seems a little too true...I find it really depressing that women who seem to deserve better continue to try to date Michael. Like Carol, who seemed really pretty nice and normal. I hope Michael finds love someday, but I hope it\'s with someone on his level. But then what would that woman even be like? The mind boggles.
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Here\'s an idea for the spin-off. We put... 1. Karen (as our POV character...a female Jim) 2. Jan (as the crazy boss...a female Michael) 3. Andy (as the sycophantic \"Dwight\" character) Let\'s give them one of the places in the same park as the office, for neat little crossovers between offices, but keep it separate so that it works in their own little realities. I know I would love to watch a show with these three characters going around and pulling ridiculous things.
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Hey Matt, Thanks for your response. Like I said... I love your podcast and there is much more good things than bad. If I failed to express that you do an awesome job and that I enjoy it, here it is! I love it. You are in my top 3 list! I won\'t go into a whole argument on something, like you emphasized, that is just your opinion. I was just trying give you my opinion to a minor thing that bothered me... specifically to the first 20 min of the podcast. Maybe is just because I disagreed with you and thought that this was a great episode… or maybe it’s because I miss Ian C. He used to give a different perspective from your own and bring balance to the podcast.
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I don\'t think Michael Scott needs to have redemption every time he does something wrong. That\'s the OLD sh!tcom model where the fat lout like Jackie Gleeson would do something terrible and by the end of the half hour he would learn his lesson. Then the very next episode he does something bad again, redeems himself again, rinse and repeat ad nauseum. Seinfeld put that cliche to bed, as far as I\'m concerned. No sappy lessons! I appreciate the show and all the work you put into it!
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Maybe I\'ve been watching too much Lost, but when I saw Jim hold up the ring, my first thought was, \"Oh, maybe in a season and a half, Jim will propose.\" I agree, though, that in Office-land, this plot line will probably come to a head one way or the other by the end of the season. However, I don\'t think that the big cliffhanger will be a proposal, or a rejection of the proposal. Maybe Jim will plan to propose and then Pam will hit him with the news that she\'s thinking of leaving Dunder Mifflin to pursue a better career option. This will cause Jim to question what he\'s doing with his life and he will hold off on proposing until he thinks this through. Just a thought. As for the spin-off, I always loved Andy\'s line in Branch Closing(?) where he talks about the Cornell network, and how maybe he\'ll just go back and teach. I could maybe dig seeing Andy Bernard in Ithaca as the Cornell Career Services adviser.
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Thanks Matt! I’m your biggest flan! :0) Hey, don’t get me wrong. I absolutely love your podcast and I must confess that I wait for it in as much anticipation as I wait for a Office episode. However, sometimes I think you complain way too much and for too long during your podcast… to the degree that takes the joy out of it. I’m used to your usual dose of dissatisfaction for not getting what you wanted… even though, some times, the episode had the exact same things you complained for on the very last one. Again, I love your podcast and it is my top list.. and maybe that’s just me, but I thought you’d appreciate a little feedback.
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