Thu, 19 November 2009
From Wikipedia: SHAREHOLDER MEETING | 11.19.09 Michael gets excited when he's invited by David Wallace to be honored on stage at the Dunder Mifflin shareholder meeting in New York, and he brings Andy, Dwight and Oscar along for the ride. Meanwhile, Jim has a hard time getting Ryan to do work. ------------ With the big bankruptcy bomb dropped last week, I'm curious as to what David Wallace thinks Michael can do for the failing Dunder Mifflin. We enjoyed the Andy and Oscar action last season on BUSINESS TRIP, so hopefully we'll see some nice bonding moments this time as well. As we mentioned in the last podcast, Ryan really put the screws to Jim in season four, so it would be interesting to see if Jim turns that around on him here. He never really DID get his revenge, but Ryan has become such a different character since then that I'm not sure if it would still be a relevant thing to do. I guess we shall see tonight. I'm probably NOT going to be able to make it into the chatroom tonight, but don't let that stop you from talking to all the other TWSS listeners. Kevin should be around during and after the Pacific time showing, though, if you Eastern/Central folks want to wait around. As always, please leave your episode comments below.
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I think the only thing I liked about this episode was the deleted scene where Phyllis and Angela each stopped by Jim\'s office to tell him they\'d be late the next day. It\'s about time he got their respect. Other than that - the rest of the episode was ludicrous to me. Michael should have been fired on the spot for that behavior. Oh, but then he\'d probably tip toe back into the office to try and steal employees away for his new venture Shoe-La-La. He could make Oscar his CFO, considering he has great ideas he\'s afraid to implement. (insert roll eyes here.)
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I\'m so tired of them trying to replicate New York City with a building that has a big marquis billboard and a sign that says \"Broadway\". That was obviously not NYC. Ugh...Don\'t even try if you can do it. I\'ve hung up my analysis hat on The Office. When I watch it, I\'m dead inside. Yet, I still watch because ... I don\'t know why, really... I guess it\'s on after Parks and Rec and before 30 Rock.
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Well, I thoroughly enjoyed the literal growth of testicles on Jim. He had the cahones to try to get the staff to listen to him as a supervisor. LOVED THAT. Finally. And who better to display them with that Ryan. Loved also that Michael attempted to be popular and the most hostile crowd you could see. It was indeed cringe worthy. What was the problem with the writers that they couldn\'t show the reaction of the higher ups to Michael\'s burn? Just run away? That was weird. Like a bunch of dumbasses waiting for what to happen? And where in the world was Charles Minor? I hope Jim finds his stride now, instead of what we\'ve seen: \"tail tucked between legs\".
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I don\'t want to complain, just wanted to point out a contiunuity error. In the cold open, the reception order went, Erin, flashback to Pam, then Ryan, then Ronnie. Ryan came after Ronnie those 2 were in the wrong order, of course if they really wanted to have fun, they could have thrown in Kevin
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after watching \"Murder\" and thinking over it. Michael has been whining about wanting to have a family, even staked claim to Jan\'s baby, and broke up with Pam\'s mom \'cuz she\'s too old to have kids. in \"Murder\" he said that the game Operation got him thru his vasectomy. am i missing something or is he actually that stupid.
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Loved the cold open, Jim handling Ryan was great, I would like to have seen more of Michael and Oscar saving the company. Michael could have publically annouced the closing of Nashua and the forced transfer of the top salesman (A.J.), Holly would naturally come along, and soon Michael can begin to win her back.
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I loved this episode. It wasn\'t the best episode in terms of plot and character, which is a large part of the Office, but it had more LOL moments than any episode in quite a while. Michael\'s flipflopping about towncar/limo, Dwight\'s flipflopping between the two lines, Andy\'s talking head - what a rebel-rouser! - and the absolutely hilarious bit with Dwight making suggestions about the line. That scene had me cracking up still a while after it ended. There were also a few character developments; Andy and Oscar\'s relationship continues to develop, and Jim FINALLY grows a pair. The one thing I found annoying was Oscar\'s whining, but it paid off in the end when it became clear that he really had no plan. All in all, I would give this episode an A+, and it\'s the third episode this season I\'d give an A- or better (I also loved Gossip and the Meeting but this one is even better)
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As BPS convincingly argued, they ultimately goofed the contuinity in the cold open. Ordinarily, I\'d be pretty upset about it but there was something charming, and redeeming, about how hard they were trying with the whole thing. Wasn\'t it a bit wonderful to see them call up Ronnie for that quick second, for them re-make Ryan, and most spectacularly of all, Jim and Pam (Vintage Jim was most impressive; Krasinski\'s appearance has changed fairly dramatically over the past few seasons and yet, if ever so briefly, he looked like he stepped straight out of \"Health Care\")? That cold open, in sum, was pretty damned funny too. Speaking of valiant effort, Charles Miner may have been absent but I\'m pretty sure I spotted the company attorney with the beehive from \"The Deposition\" in the hospitality suite scene. Like, wow.
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Finally! The is episode should be retitled \"How Halpert Got His Groove Back.\" After a series of episodes showing Jim as meek and ineffective as a manager it was extremely satisfying to see him put his pranking skills to good use with an epic punishment for the slimy Ryan. On top of that, he showed the rest of the office that he can make their lives miserable if they don\'t recognize his authority. The look on Phyllis\'s face was very telling. For years everyone got to laugh as Jim tormented Dwight. Now they recognize that having a smart, clever person as a boss isn\'t going to be as fun as having him as a coworker.
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I actually thought tonight\'s episode was pretty funny though it didn\'t amount to much in the end. Why they would have invited Michael to this important event, give him a limo, and put a microphone in front of him really makes no sense, of course. Also, I think the writer\'s missed an opportunity when Michael brought Oscar into the hotel room -- Oscar should have let the executives have it...followed by both he and Michael getting kicked out! Good to see Jim get tough with Ryan. But each week we see more evidence of Jim\'s ineptitude as a manager, it makes me wonder why the writers didn\'t realize that there was much greater comic possibility in making Dwight the co-manager!
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Anyone get the sense that the corporate storyline was about a year late? I feel that the whole topic of top execs living lavishly in the wake of their employees\' suffering was much more in the public consciousness last year. Would the Dunder Mifflin corporates really continue to be this exorbitant this late into the recession...or at least try to cover their tracks a little better, i.e., by NOT inviting Michael? Once again, I question David Wallace\'s judgment in his continual trust in Michael at public/company events (Company Picnic, anyone?). On the other hand, I LOVED Jim\'s storyline and climax with him really putting Ryan in his place. If ever a douchebag deserved to be publicly humiliated, it was Ryan. One thing still bothers me, though...we\'ve been constantly questioning when characters will \"man up.\" Now it\'s Oscar\'s turn to grow a pair.
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I\'d like to rewatch the episode before sharing full thoughts, but my first impression was that of a fun episode with high re-play value. Also: Excellent question, Flippity Floppity, about Charles Miner. I love Idris Elba\'s work on The Wire as much as the next bloke, but The Office writers really screwed themselves by picking such a high-profile and preoccupied star to play the role. Despite Michael\'s late triumph last season, Charles Miner should have been around a hell of a lot more than we\'ve seen him. And he certainly should have been at the Shareholder Meeting.
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While I\'ve enjoyed the past few episodes (as I do every episode), I feel as if there have been a number of missed opportunities to advance the storyline. I\'m beginning to get the impression that the producers are in the same boat as the board of Dunder Mifflin - sinking fast with no plan for the future.
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My thoughts: *Dunder Mifflin used to be a \"mid-range paper supply firm,\" and now they seem to be a huge company. Protesters at a shareholder meeting? Were these people fully invested in this \"small\" company or what? *Isn\'t Earth Day in April? I know it\'s green week on NBC or whatever, but that cold open was dumb. It showed Ryan as the receptionist (presumably when Pam was on vacation, or the third week in January) and was that Ronnie as the receptionist (summer). Why bring back Ronnie for 1.5 seconds of screen time, anyway? I suppose Dwight could show up as Recyclops whenever he wanted, but I don\'t like it. *Michael has driven to New York several times during the show. Only after some bankruptcy rumors do they send a car, a LIMO, to get him? Are executives really that dumb? Especially when all Michael was supposed to do was wave? *Oscar had a chance to mildly redeem this episode, and yet...tragically...he did not. *The tag was pretty dumb as well. Plus it looked like Michael was already gone. *I briefly was checking some comments at Officetally, but stopped when someone suggested \'classic season 2 Jim and Pam\' or something like that. I may have to punch them in the tooth. Any comparisons of this episode to season 2 end after noticing that the show is still called \"The Office.\" *I hate to just keep kicking at the show, so I\'ll stop. I still like the show and still watch the show, obviously, but not 10 seconds after it was over my buddy compared it to Survivor Man, one of our least favorite episodes.
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