Tue, 29 April 2008
Episode # 42 of THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID finds both Matt and Kevin lost in a land of Hobbits and amazons. You know, it's not the horniness... it's the LONLINESS that gets you. A string of non-Crawford-esque dates has Michael up against the wall, but nothing solves a dry spell like a night of clubbing in NYC with your coked-up boss/ex-protege. At least the man from Schrute Farm managed to PULL like a team of Clydesdales. Jim's second attempt to be Michael goes as well as the first, as he manages to get everyone locked in, be racially insensitive, AND watch his best girl get man-handled by the HR rep... a perfect trifecta of sadness. One thing's for sure-- that Toby's got hops. Incidental music provided by the Podshow Podsafe Music Network. Email us at TWSSpodcast @ gmail.com, or leave a comment on our blog page at TWSSpodcast. com. Check out Kevin's blog and podcast at
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Just finished the podcast (well, this afternoon) and just had to say it was another great one. Thanks for mentioning my post. I still get \'star struck\' whenever you guys mention me. :) It makes me feel SMRT or something. I really can\'t remember what I was actually going to post because I\'ve just finished watching my newest favorite period drama and can\'t think of anything else, but I had to say thanks and good job before I forgot.
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Hey Matt Thanks again for reading my response to \"Night Out\" on your latest podcast. I do want to say that I am right in saying that the cold open for that was truly funny, at least in comparison to other non-plotline centered cold opens. Michael sticking his face in cement is nowhere near as funny or ridiculous as having Dwight apply peanut butter over Michael\'s head like conditioner in order to get gum out of his hair.
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I just listened to the podcast, and have to comment on the issue with Michael and Ryan. You mentioned that Michael - in past episodes - has been hatin\' on his old crush, Ryan...yet, in this new episode, we see him fighting back on Ryan\'s side. Could this be Michael\'s way of truly breaking up with Jan? I think he started hating on Ryan in the first place because he took his woman\'s job, and out of loyalty to Jan, \"broke up\" with Ryan. I think this is all part of Michael\'s process of letting go of Jan, and realizing his new freedoms now that he\'s out of the talons of Jan\'s psychological control... :) Just a theory! Thanks for the podcast, guys. You rock.
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Matt, I believe if you ask the writer of this episode, Mindy, about what you consider to be little plot holes, she would tell you that some minor things have to be left out and left to the audience in the interests of aesthetics and storytelling efficiency. For instance, Ron Moore, the creator of Galactica, has a blog where he answers people\'s questions about this very thing. Sometimes he owns up to oversights and errors, but most of the time he says to clear up a particular little nitpick would ruin the flow of the storytelling, or take time away from something more important.
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I love the podcast and appreciate the work you put into it. I had not considered the cameramen in the club and how Michael could have used that to his advantage. Isn\'t that just exactly what David Brent would do? And speaking of Ricky Gervais, I couldn\'t help notice Dwight\'s joke about Ryan\'s friend was very similar to Darren Lamb\'s remarks about a similarly height challenged character in Extra\'s. Was it an homage? Lazy writing? Or is the joke just that obvious they had to write it?
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Hi guys, thanks for the shout-out! One thing I did really find humorous about this episode is the Dwight-Michael-Ryan Man crush triangle. (just saw deleted scene 3) It was actually nice to see Ryan receptive to Dwight and Michael\'s friendship, if only in an altered state. Usually Ryan shows such complete distain for well, everyone, that he\'s unlikeable. Thanks for the Footloose flashback btw, I totally pictured Dwight the ladies man doing cartwheels and air punches, in his suit of course.
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The Michael/cameraman-in-the-club question has a simple answer: Even though he looks directly into the camera several times, Michael has forgotten the cameras are there. Neither he, Dwight, or Ryan make a big deal about the cameras, so neither do the Hobbit or the Amazons. I\'ve read, on more than one occasion, that in a reality show, a contestant will simply forget the cameras are there after about 3 days. Certainly it seems that children forget about them after 3 days, maybe even less time. Watch Supernanny and you\'ll notice the kids have no fear or issue about melting down in front of cameras...they\'re just upset they didn\'t get a popsicle, or whatever, and they\'re going to let their parents know about it. For all intents and purposes, isn\'t Michael a child, after all? Even though he has talking heads (including his awesome Wire homage), he can\'t possibly remember constantly that this footage will eventually be shown to the public. That\'s my story, and I\'m sticking to it!
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I now dislike this episode after you guys pointed out the missed opportunity of highlighting the documentary in the nightclub. Just thinking of what Michael would\'ve called it; knowing him, he\'d say he was a Real World castmember. Also, I had the same reaction as Kevin about how the security guard would\'ve had to see the full parking lot as some reason for concern. Finally, Matt: Please continue doing you Flenderson impersonation. I never grow tired of hearing you guys pointing out how creepy Toby\'s voice is.
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Kevin, the plot holes you mentioned can be explained with not much imagination. Here\'s how it can be done with very little effort... 1. Hank is an idiot, so he didn\'t pay attention to the cars in the lot. 2. Bob Vance was out of town so Phyllis couldn\'t call him for rescue. Ta-da! I just saved the episode. I met the guy who wrote \"Nice Guys Don\'t Get Laid\" when I worked for Borders in L.A. about 14 years ago. He did a signing appearance. It is a funny book as you said, and he didn\'t seem to take his own advice in person.
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Is there anyone else but me who often wishes for MORE technology issues (scenarios) would be incorporated into the show? I love anytime there is anything to do with the \"real problems\" that a lot of workers face in an office environment. Copier malfunctions, operating system migrations, ipods, mobile devices, internet security, blogs, etc. I don\'t want it to turn into Dilbert BUT , just more technology story lines! Am I alone in that regard?
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If you guys get to submit a podcast episode for Emmy consideration, it\'s got to be this one. The analysis was great! You called out the heavy-handedness of Ryan\'s drug problem, the suspension of disbelief required to watch the parking lot scenes, and other great character insights. Bravo. And Matt, as far as Jim\'s 0-2 record, we have to remember that at least no one had to come to work the next day.
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Hey Matt... It\'s not just \"Jim thinks he\'s a great boss and then he\'s a screw up.\" It\'s also about how many times your \"friends\" at work are not really good friends at all. So they think Jim is a hero because of his idea to get them out of coming in on Saturday, but no he\'s a jerk because they are trapped in the building. Often \"work friends\" are friends as long as you do something for them and not friends when you get in their way or interfere with their life outside of work. Sadly that\'s been my experience more than once!
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I realize I\'m taking a terrible risk by posting this late at night, but I just had to express my happiness at having something splendid to listen to during tomorrow\'s commute. Woot! Thanks guys! Ha ha ha. My code words are \"Ham\" and \"Slushy\". Appropriate.
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